Sanders Hot Fudge and Other Michigan Things

Being from Michigan originally, I have been known to use words that are, shall we say, quite uncommon out here in California. However, having lived in California since the mid 80s, most of those Midwest words have been replaced with the California version of them. For example: pop has become soda and highway has become freeway. The only term I STILL can’t get used to saying is sliding glass door rather than doorwall. My friends look at me with this blank stare when I ask “Did you notice if I closed the doorwall?” I find it hard to believe that doorwall is a Michigan-only word. Has anyone else out there heard of it? Or use it?

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Kristi

April 28th, 2004 | 2:52 pm


I’m originally from Michigan and I’ve never heard the term doorwall Strange. But I sure do know what a “Michigan left” is

Nicole

April 28th, 2004 | 8:56 pm


never heard the phrase in my life :O
when i hear people say ‘pop’ i wanna giggle insanely though :D

Autumn

July 8th, 2004 | 9:03 pm


Are you from the Detroit area? Because I’m a native Michigander currently living in Chicago and I have run into the same problem with the term “doorwall.” However, I have also debated the term with MANY of my friends from different areas of the state and have come to find out that “doorwall” is a term solely used in the Detroit area. The only person I know that says “doorwall” is a friend of mine from the U.P., but here parents were both born and raised in the Detroit area.

Hilary

July 13th, 2004 | 12:09 pm


Yep, I am from the Detroit area!

Dave

January 11th, 2005 | 4:18 am


I grew up around Michigan and have heard the term doorwall. I still use that word although now that I live in Virginia where no one else uses that word. I have met other people from Michigan who use that word and I’m glad there’s more out there.

Melissa

April 3rd, 2006 | 7:00 am

I just printed this page to convince co-workers in Ohio that doorwall is not a made up word by me. I was born in Michigan and I guess I learned some strange words myself. Although, I do say soda, freeway and many other strange ones like pocket door.

Robin

April 17th, 2006 | 4:38 pm

Well, both my husband and I know it as a doorwall. I didn’t realize until I joined an online support group that it was called anything else! LOL!

We both grew up, and currently live in the SE MI area.

Heather

April 28th, 2006 | 3:00 pm

I am from michigan recently moved to indiana. I work for an apartment complex and ran into the problem with “doorwall” just today. I asked the maintenance guy about the doorwall in one of the apts and he looked at me like I was stupid. No one hear had ever heard the term before… strange.. another one i have come across as being mich only is “kiddie corner” other wise known every where else as caddy corner… even more strange

Phil

July 21st, 2006 | 5:13 am

I have founbd out the hard way, this is only around Detroit, now that I live in Knoxville.

Louise Dickson Heizer

September 20th, 2006 | 1:49 pm

Anyone out there remember Saunders tunafish/or turkey salad sandwiches? Better yet, anyone have the
recipes? I’d love to try them, being a michigander since 1943 and now living in Texas…

Jim

January 11th, 2007 | 1:27 pm

My wife is from Detroit, MI and also says all kinds of odd things like “door-wall”. It seems as though Detroit is some sort of vocabularian vacuum, she’s never heard of “crocodile tears” or “ass-over-tincups”.

The dialects are odd, considering the ability to travel between areas.

Tom

February 3rd, 2007 | 4:45 pm

I was born and raised in Michigan (Royal Oak/Metro Detroit) and grew up using the word doorwall all my life (25 years). My sisters live in Chicago and Portland, Oregon, I lived one year in Cleveland, Ohio, and I currently live in Tallahassee, Florida. NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF THAT WORD BEFORE IN ALL THOSE PLACES! I’m sticking to it though. GO BLUE!

gary

March 2nd, 2007 | 4:58 am

I found this website looking for doorwall maintenance……….and I’m sitting here in MI….weird, guess I need to go back to google and type in “Sliding glass door maintenance. LOL

Carrie

March 29th, 2007 | 9:47 am

I know this is an old post….but I had to comment. YES! I say “Doorwall” and I’m from Michigan (Detroit area) - I now live in Chicago and my boyfriend teases me mercilessly, calling it a ’sliding glass door’. Nope. Can’t say it.

Doorwall ’til death!

Linda

April 26th, 2007 | 8:10 pm

I am from Michigan all my life it has been a doorwall and it will always be a doorwall.
GO WINGS!!!!!!!!! GO DOORWALL!!!!!!!!

Craig

May 3rd, 2007 | 5:14 pm

I am also from the Detroit, MI area. And my whole life I have known it to be a doorwall.

Al Doss

June 25th, 2007 | 4:27 pm

i found this post googling doorwall. I too am from the downriver area in michigan. go figure! were cool

Paul J Ward

July 23rd, 2007 | 4:32 pm

Of course it’s “doorwall”. The rest of the country are hicks.

Grace

September 5th, 2007 | 3:21 pm

Well, this explains why I can’t find crap on google for doorwall treatments…. I hate vertical blinds and was looking for alternatives… perhaps my little Detroit born and raised self needs to search sliding glass door treatments…

I also once searched for ever at a lowes for a “garbage” can and was even directed by a new girl to the area for “garage” stuff cause she couldn’t find any reference to “garbage cans” … then I finally stumbled on “trash containers” Guess I was raised a garbage girl.

Hill

November 29th, 2007 | 7:25 am

Wow, this is an old post! But I also found it on Google searching for doorwalls and yup, I am in Michigan too! Metro Detroit. I have heard it all my life here. I didn’t realize it was a regional term like pop. lol

Brad

February 14th, 2008 | 8:22 am

Well, I see the last post is November 2007 so I’m going to add mine.

I’m from Michigan visiting my folks in Florida. Their DOORWALL was getting tough to open and close so I decided to run to Home Depot to get a better handle. First of all the handles weren’t with all the other door handles where I thought they would be, but that’s a Home Depot issue - this forced me to ask an employee. It went some thing like this.

Me: “Hi, can you tell me where the doorwall handles are?”
Him:
Long pause here.
Me:
Him in a pissy tone: “I don’t know what a doorwall is”
Me in a pissier tone:”It’s a glass door that slides open and closed”
Him: “OHHHH, a sliding glass door!! Right over there in isle 11 in a blue box”.
Me: “OK, thanks…you dumb-ass(under my breath).”

Well the handle didn’t solve the problem so I had to find a place to replace the wheels. I Googled doorwall repair and got this link. Too funny!!!

I owe that dude an apology.

Fran

April 2nd, 2008 | 11:22 am

Thanks so much for the validation. I have taken much abuse from family and friends about the term doorwall. Now I feel totally vindicated and issued the site to all of them. Let them eat their uninformed words! Actually we have had a lot of fun exchanging other what words they use that are odd to me. Like soda for pop and freeway for highway. I was born in Detroit and can salivate just thinking about a Sander’s Hot Fudge Cream Puff with butter pecan ice cream. I also wonder if anyone from Mi. gets comments on how often they use the word “so?” This came up while editing a book I wrote called, Woman of the Ages. This was not meant to be a plug but o.k. so what if it is. Fran

Katie

April 20th, 2008 | 8:57 am

I grew up in Utica, a northern suburb of Detroit, and when I was a kid, we moved into a house with a doorwall, and I have called it that ever since. I am now in the architecture & design industry, and moved from Michigan to New York City 7 years ago. The first, and only, time I used the term ‘doorwall’ in NYC, I got strange looks and ‘what the hell’s a doorwall?’. Recently, I asked my dad, a detroit-native, about the term, and he seemed to know that it’s a Detroit-only term, and hypothesized that a Detroit-based manufacturer or developer must have coined the term, and it spread around the area. My mom also recalled she doesn’t remember ever hearing the term before the 1960’s, which is when all the post-modern suburbs started popping up.
Also, my fiance is from Paw Paw Michigan, near Kalamazoo, and had never heard the term before meeting me.

Jill

April 21st, 2008 | 4:35 pm

I am originally from Michigan, the White Lake/Pontiac area, and my immediate family members and I call it doorwall. I moved to Florida when I was 10 years old, and I still refer to it as a doorwall…not a sliding glass door! That word is just too long anyways!

Bruce and Cheryl

May 11th, 2008 | 8:53 am

Also found this site Googling “Doorwall”. We are originally from the Northeast, Ohio area, but lived in the Detroit area for over 30 years. Where we grew up we knew it as a Patio Door. Trying to find a replacement for a “Patio Door” for our house was impossible - nobody knew what we were talking about! Thus WE learned of the term Doorwall. We are now in the NYC area and of course nobody here knows what a Doorwall is. p.s., we also miss Sander’s, pop, Michigan lefts, and of course, the Red Wings!

Dannyle

May 14th, 2008 | 1:34 pm

Also Formally from Michigan and now living in North Carolina. Everyone Laughed when I said DOORWALL. They had no clue what i was talking about. I guess the same goes for when they reference a hose pipe. what the hell is a hose pipe. A GARDEN HOSE. BUGGY AKA Grocery Cart….. the list goes on and on and on.

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